At least it's not Thonar who becomes the new Jarl of Markarth, though. Thongvor is tolerable, unlike his brother. And regarding Maven, there is one good thing about her being the Jarl: you'll never see her outside Mistveil Keep again except maybe during the TG questline? Like x 1. Mr Forz I'm helping. Funny x 1. My very first play through of the main quest I joined the stormcloacks, and had no idea there was supposed to be a peace treaty, because we had settled the civil war before I asked the new Jarl of Whiterun to trap the Dragon for me.
Anyway I read about it online and thought it sounded interesting, so I did it on my current playthough. I gave dawnstar to the Imperials because there was no way I was going to have Maven run Riften Officially. Ulfric was mad at me for losing The Pale, which he liked to remind me about, often. And Delphine demanded I kill Parthy which I flatly refused to do who needs them anyways All this just to trap a dragon Think I'll stick with storming Whiterun in the future.
Maybe my next build A male warrior he will side with the Imperials instead, just for a change. Daelon DuLac How do you backstab a Dragon? Now that's my idea of a good time. Reason: Saerlund maybe Laila's son, but unlike the rest of his family that are Stormcloaks fanatics, he possess the will, critical thinking capabilities and balls to speak his mind and not let environment Common masses influence him, he can stand on the Stormcloak's side and look at their merits but is still able to stand beside the Imperial Legion, the fact that he can look at multiple perspectives means he saw the Empire's flaws as well but still remained unaffected and had a clear view of the big picture.
That right there is unpolished Jarl material. Sure he sounds like a salty kid who got disowned. But he is an inferior choice in the short term than Maven but a far better choice in the long run. Maven and her whole family needs to die. Every single one of them.
Not even any of their newborn baby, their dog, cat are allowed to survive. Erase 9 lines of their blood from existence so that the money they hogged can flow back to Riften.
So that Skyrim will have Black Briar and Honningbrew Mead and may the truly best Mead maker wins in a fair competition. The same goes for Silver-bloods. They need to be erased from existence for the long term good of Markarth. Sure it sounds bad for the current pathetic Empire if two of the 9 Holds are given chance to get twice as strong. But like I said, if Empire is strong and confident, it has nothing to worry about. The stormcloaks only a portion of the nords by my lead, just ran the empire who abandoned them out of skyrim Some of us have always sided with the rebel factions against the empire Morrowind included.
The "best" option, is only in our own minds. There was no absolute winning side written into Skyrim, which is as it should be! Don't forget the Nords created the empire in the first place led by Tiber himself, and its legions are still reinforced with nord and orc soldiers. Explore Wikis Community Central. Register Don't have an account? Elder Scrolls Explore. Elder Scrolls Online. Events Characters Factions Locations Concepts. Stormcloak -Lastly, don't forget to kick Elenwen out of the council.
Season Unending. Ottoman In terms of the Jarls, most of them, if not all are disposable. Busiao No Laughs wrote: It wasn't a straw man as you tries to use to discredit my point. You are equally responsible for shifting the topic in this direction. The dragons are a threat to us both. The traitor Skald the Elder will be replaced with a more loyal candidate.
I can see that these are the best terms we'll get from this council. So be it. The Empire at least puts the greater good above our own interests. Shall I just hand over all of Skyrim? Although I'm starting to doubt your fairness.
Ulfric Stormcloak: "Now, back to the matter at hand. You know that. Sorli the Builder will take over as Jarl of Morthal. Siddgeir steps down, and Dengeir of Stuhn resumes the Jarlship. This is a waste of time. I can see that we won't get better terms from this council. The sons of Skyrim at least put the greater good above our own interests.
Do you expect me to surrender all of Skyrim? The blood of the innocent cries out for weregild. Skald the Elder will go into exile, and Brina Merilis will assume the Jarlship. Korir will replace Kraldar as Jarl. Idgrod Ravencrone will go into exile, with Sorli the Builder replacing her as Jarl. Jarl Siddgeir will step down, and Dengeir of Stuhn will take his place as Jarl. Brina Merilis will assume the Jarlship in Dawnstar. I have no choice, though, under the circumstances.
But once Alduin is defeated - then it will be the Empire's turn. Remember - "Evgir Unslaad. As long as the Imperials hold to theirs. You've done well for yourself as the Empire's pet Jarl. But beware - the Empire's loyalty is fickle.
They will tire of this war, and then I will be the one dictating terms to you. Are these terms to your liking? Speak up. I'm sure General Tullius is waiting to do your bidding. Everyone here knows that. But the Empire will accept them, until the dragon menace is dealt with. For a temporary truce, until the dragon menace is dealt with. Count on it. Ulfric Stormcloak: "Come on, Galmar. We have a lot of work to do. And General Tullius. Riften is ours!
I hope it was worth it. Getting Ulfric to agree to anything at all is quite an achievement. General Tullius: "Legate, with me. And Jarl Ulfric. Markarth is ours! Getting the Empire to agree to anything at all is quite an achievement. Before adding a bug to this list, consider the following: Please reload an old save to confirm if the bug is still happening. Cancel Save. Universal Conquest Wiki. If I can get the Greybeards to host a peace council, I can try to convince the Imperials and the Stormcloaks to agree to a truce in order to defeat Alduin, who is a threat to both sides in the civil war.
Objective Talk to Arngeir. Arngeir has agreed to host a peace council at High Hrothgar. I need to convince the Imperials and the Stormcloaks to agree to a truce in order to defeat Alduin, who is a threat to both sides in the civil war. The Jarl of Whiterun wouldn't help me capture a dragon as long as the civil war was raging. Arngeir agreed to host a peace council at High Hrothgar. With Esbern's help, I persuaded General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak to agree to a truce in order to defeat Alduin, who is a threat to both sides in the civil war.
Quest complete. PC PS3 If the Dragonborn has started the quest to join either the Stormcloaks or the Imperials, it will be impossible to continue with the quest, as there will be no dialogue box when they talk to the faction leaders, making it impossible to tell them about the Greybeards' peace treaty. This can be fixed by repeatedly tapping the activate button when speaking to Galmar or Ulfric. They will keep saying that a mission is ongoing.
Upon completing the " Battle for Whiterun ," the option to talk to General Tullius and Ulfric Stormcloak becomes available again. It also is possible to talk to them when returning The Jagged Crown. Note that this only works with General Tullius: Ulfric will just direct the Dragonborn to talk to Galmar. Alternatively, if the Dragonborn has any outstanding "initiation" quests running, then completing them should allow talking to the appropriate leader.
If " The Jagged Crown " for the Legion has been started, Tullius will not be able to speak with the Dragonborn, instead sending him to join Legate Rikke. This can also occur with Ulfric in the same quest, if joining the Stormcloaks. Sometimes one or more of the original guards of the holds that were exchanged will still be inside the main city and the guard s will attack their new occupants.
PC PS3 If the negotiators stop talking and the Dragonborn is unable to talk, they should exit their seat or it will be impossible to continue the creation of the treaty. Talking to Esbern should continue the quest after that. The meeting may not start after the Dragonborn has taken a seat. Staying seated and waiting twenty-four hours in-game will trigger the meeting. If it still does not trigger, all guests should sit down after five to ten minutes of real time.
Leaving High Hrothgar and then coming back can also trigger the meeting. Galmar may get stuck on Delphine and be unable to reach his seat.
Running into him until he is closer to his spot the seat two over from you will allow everyone to sit down properly. PC Fix If the quest still does not begin, typing setstage mq 60 into the console can fix it.
PC Fix If the console command above does not help, disabling then enabling Galmar or moving him closer to his seat via console commands clicking him and then typing "movto player" may also help. PC This bug may also occur if the quest "Tending the Flames" is at a stage where Viarmo is about to recite the verse to Elisif, rendering both "Tending The Flames" and this quest impossible to progress further. This can be fixed by ensuring the opposing faction gets both forts, or completing that portion of the Civil War quests before starting "Season Unending.
Disabling then enabling him will wake him up. This can be done by opening the console, clicking on him, then typing "disable" and "enable. Sometimes the Jarl of Whiterun does not require this quest and will allow the Dragonborn to trap a dragon even if the war is not yet finished, when all Stormcloak cities but Windhelm or all Imperial cities but Solitude have been captured.
This can be solved by attacking her far away from the negotiation room until she is on her knees since she is marked as essential, she cannot be killed , then quickly sprinting to the room to start the negotiations. The trick is not to let anyone else see Legate Rikke attack. If " The Forsworn Conspiracy " has not been completed, it will automatically be marked as complete if Markarth is surrendered to the Stormcloaks.
Sometimes, "Season Unending" will not complete gracefully, causing quest stages for both it and the overall Civil War quest id "CW" to not engage properly. For example: Characters from the conference may endlessly walk up and down the stairs just outside High Hrothgar, not responding to the Dragonborn and not otherwise participating in any quest dialogue or events.
However, not all of them may be the best options to rule. Poor sods need freedom from that oafish old man who is currently Jarl. You can purchase items from the traders as well as sell unwanted stuff you've collected or received during your expeditions. Use Bjorlam's carriage outside of Whiterun Stables to travel to all the major cities. It always appears that one side would dislike me walking by whenever I trade off Riften to the Empire like the last time I've tried to end it in a neutral stance, typically: - Don't give any Compensation for whatever Incident happen.
Which to give imperial, Winterhold or riften or markath? User Info: doc With the reach at the Stormcloak's hands, Solitude will be in danger. There is no consequence whatever you choose. Mage light are authentic to winterhold as their light source, well i implemented that idea to markarth. Requires the Dragonborn DLC. My easy guide for the best Stormcloak outcome; Would it still be possible to go through the senario and have a neutral outcome where neither side would dislike me passing by their territorial keeps?
So if you swap Markarth and Riften and get compensation paid by the stormcloaks it seems like the most fair ending. Even if you completely screw over Ulfric Stormcloak and give Gen. Tullius everything, Tullius still says that you're obviously siding with the Stormcloaks. We use cookies to improve your experience and increase the relevancy of content when using CurseForge. Somente se pode treinar 5 … You currently have javascript disabled. High quality Winterhold gifts and merchandise.
So, if you can't get it otherwise, you might consider joining the Imperials and completing the civil war questline, then see if you can get it. Holds You can help them get above the influence by disrupting the Skooma trade in the Rift adapted from my answer about getting a house there : Speak to Wujeeta and completed "Helping Hand" by giving her a healing potion.
Fair trade Stormcloak Choice: Dawnstar. Severin Manor: A free house in Raven Rock that is tied to a quest. For Riften you must go to the Riften Fishery and look for a lady that has a Skooma addiction. Weather is a huge factor for me, so that rules out a lot of the hardcore cold cities for me.
Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic harassment, fighting, or rude posts. The Skooma Trade is a series of miscellaneous objectives that will lead to you Becoming Thane of Riften. Enthir; College of Winterhold. If you want to sell something you must remember that most traders are only interested in the types of items they're offering, so for example you can't sell a weapon to a shopkeeper that specializes in alchemy ingredients.
This does not include helping members of a guild, such as the Thieves Guild, or the Dark Brotherhood. Markarth kinda look magical with its overhaul also brighten the city a bit. College of Winterhold. Skyrim is governed by Jarls that hold power in each of its primary regions. Imperial Choice: Riften. This would be better in the spoiler forum. Riften's full of junkies. Requires all DLCs. It was founded by Shalidor the Archmage, the same man who created the infamous Labyrinthian.
Am I supposed to become the Thane later in the story or did I break something? And there is this one part where stormcloak asks to get wether markath,riften or winterhold. Trying to stay neutral in the Civil War conflict, Seasons Unending is my Boogeyman in the entire game. I'm having trouble becoming the Thane of this hold because I cannot receive the quest to retrieve the Helm of Winterhold. D: sas Posts: Joined: Thu Aug 03, am.
One stone of Barenziah is located in the chambers of Jarl Riften on the bedside table. Winterhold is a city located on the northeasternmost tip of Skyrim and is home to the prominent College of Winterhold.
It was once a large, bustling and prosperous city. The Iconic Trade Hub of Skyrim Riften Pirates, Tramps, and Thieves Urog gro-Shub; Markarth Stables. This turns the favor toward the Stormcloaks side, which then triggers followup options to give something to the Imperials. Phase 2: Markarth is given to the Stormcloaks.
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